I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
MVP Nominations
Hi Sean,
First off, MVPs aren't automatically Beta testers, and even though it is available with an MSDN subscription it may not be the latest build that has been released to Beta testers.
Second, the usual MVP award cycle begins in October, although a few MVPs are awarded in January, April, and July. For most people the first thing they know about their MVP award is a gift package that arrives at the beginning of that month.
As far as I know people who are nominated but not awarded never hear anything at all from Microsoft, and I'm sure no one will know that they are to be awarded in April before April 1 unless someone breaks their NDA (non-disclosure) agreement.
Finally, I don't think a public forum like this is the place to discuss whether one may or may not be awarded MVP status, although sometimes people are congratulated in public forums after their award status becomes known (by something in their signature, for example).
-- Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP cindy_winegarden@msn.com www.cindywinegarden.com
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message
I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
Cindy, I maybe out to lunch here (but I think I am not.), but I don't think what Sean was talking about was an MVP Nomination...read it again Cindy...He was asking about being Nomnated by an MVP to beta test Vista.... Robbie "Cindy Winegarden" wrote in message
Hi Sean,
First off, MVPs aren't automatically Beta testers, and even though it is available with an MSDN subscription it may not be the latest build that has been released to Beta testers.
Second, the usual MVP award cycle begins in October, although a few MVPs are awarded in January, April, and July. For most people the first thing they know about their MVP award is a gift package that arrives at the beginning of that month.
As far as I know people who are nominated but not awarded never hear anything at all from Microsoft, and I'm sure no one will know that they are to be awarded in April before April 1 unless someone breaks their NDA (non-disclosure) agreement.
Finally, I don't think a public forum like this is the place to discuss whether one may or may not be awarded MVP status, although sometimes people are congratulated in public forums after their award status becomes known (by something in their signature, for example).
-- Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP cindy_winegarden@msn.com www.cindywinegarden.com
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message
I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
Hi Robbie,
Now that I read it again I see it that way too.
-- Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP cindy_winegarden@msn.com www.cindywinegarden.com
"Robbie" wrote in message
Cindy, I maybe out to lunch here (but I think I am not.), but I don't think what Sean was talking about was an MVP Nomination...read it again Cindy...He was asking about being Nomnated by an MVP to beta test Vista....
At this stage, I would just wait on BETA 2 expected in April. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message
Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
As I said, Andre, he's gotta be 18 to test Vista. So waiting until April won't help in this case.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
At this stage, I would just wait on BETA 2 expected in April. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
Yeah, but BETA 2 will be public, hopefully it will be available as a free download. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message
As I said, Andre, he's gotta be 18 to test Vista. So waiting until April won't help in this case.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message At this stage, I would just wait on BETA 2 expected in April. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
Oh. Source please? Did it appear somewhere in the newsgroup, or did that press guy everyone loves to hate say it? StarFerret wants to read for herself. :->
Hmmm, I do remember some "public" betas in the past that were for pay.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
Yeah, but BETA 2 will be public, hopefully it will be available as a free download. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message As I said, Andre, he's gotta be 18 to test Vista. So waiting until April won't help in this case.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message At this stage, I would just wait on BETA 2 expected in April. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
I think if there were any costs to incur, it was generally for postage of the media the software was being shipped on. With faster internet speeds now, it will probably be a downloadable iso. And once a public release is available, I don't think there will be anything to stop Sean downloading it (if he doesn't get nominated this time round).
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
NLWard wrote:
Oh. Source please? Did it appear somewhere in the newsgroup, or did that press guy everyone loves to hate say it? StarFerret wants to read for herself. :-
Hmmm, I do remember some "public" betas in the past that were for pay.
Incorrect, people between the ages of 16-18 can have a parent/guardian sign a consent form. Under 16 is the cutoff age.
-- --Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - IIS, Virtual PC] http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step tutorial site :-) http://vpc.visualwin.com - Does <insert OS name> work on VPC 2004? Find out here Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them.
"NLWard" wrote in message
As I said, Andre, he's gotta be 18 to test Vista. So waiting until April won't help in this case.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message At this stage, I would just wait on BETA 2 expected in April. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
Either way, those who are under-age shouldn't be able to test... which I think was Nancy's overall point...
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP] wrote:
Incorrect, people between the ages of 16-18 can have a parent/guardian sign a consent form. Under 16 is the cutoff age.
The cost I saw was nominal, at least. But a cost anyway. And it would be good if there were a public download site, but can you imagine what a hit the Microsoft servers would take!?
Shhhhhhhhhh, Scott. I didn't want to say his name out loud. Besides, I don't think there'll be an age limit for the public beta; at least there shouldn't be, because it would be absolutely impossible to enforce.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
""Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]"" wrote in message
I think if there were any costs to incur, it was generally for postage of the media the software was being shipped on. With faster internet speeds now, it will probably be a downloadable iso. And once a public release is available, I don't think there will be anything to stop Sean downloading it (if he doesn't get nominated this time round).
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
NLWard wrote: Oh. Source please? Did it appear somewhere in the newsgroup, or did that press guy everyone loves to hate say it? StarFerret wants to read for herself. :-
Hmmm, I do remember some "public" betas in the past that were for pay.
No, not exactly my point that he "shouldn't" be allowed to test, but that he isn't of an age to test and "wouldn't" be allowed to test.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
""Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]"" wrote in message
Either way, those who are under-age shouldn't be able to test... which I think was Nancy's overall point...
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP] wrote: Incorrect, people between the ages of 16-18 can have a parent/guardian sign a consent form. Under 16 is the cutoff age.
If he needs it badly, the $9.95 won't kill him. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message
The cost I saw was nominal, at least. But a cost anyway. And it would be good if there were a public download site, but can you imagine what a hit the Microsoft servers would take!?
Shhhhhhhhhh, Scott. I didn't want to say his name out loud. Besides, I don't think there'll be an age limit for the public beta; at least there shouldn't be, because it would be absolutely impossible to enforce.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
""Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]"" iwantalivemessengerinvite@googlemail.com> wrote in message I think if there were any costs to incur, it was generally for postage of the media the software was being shipped on. With faster internet speeds now, it will probably be a downloadable iso. And once a public release is available, I don't think there will be anything to stop Sean downloading it (if he doesn't get nominated this time round).
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
NLWard wrote: Oh. Source please? Did it appear somewhere in the newsgroup, or did that press guy everyone loves to hate say it? StarFerret wants to read for herself. :-
Hmmm, I do remember some "public" betas in the past that were for pay.
Sounds like good idea too to have Parents consenting to this. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]" wrote in message
Incorrect, people between the ages of 16-18 can have a parent/guardian sign a consent form. Under 16 is the cutoff age.
-- --Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - IIS, Virtual PC] http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step tutorial site :-) http://vpc.visualwin.com - Does <insert OS name> work on VPC 2004? Find out here Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them.
"NLWard" wrote in message As I said, Andre, he's gotta be 18 to test Vista. So waiting until April won't help in this case.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message At this stage, I would just wait on BETA 2 expected in April. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"NLWard" wrote in message Sean, I'm assuming you're talking about a nomination to beta test Vista, so I'll go on that premise.
Nominations for the special group of beta testers have been closed. Those who are chosen will be notified pretty soon, I'm guessing.
There is a caveat here... Testers must be 18 years of age or older, since testing Vista requires a binding NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) contract.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"XxRebelSeanxX" wrote in message I've been talking to a few MVPs lately, and they said that people who were nominated by a MVP nomination would hear from Microsoft at the begining of February. Does anyone know if this is still happenening? Or has it been delayed or what? I'm looking forward to testing Vista :).
---------------------------------------------- Sean Braford MSN Extraordinaire & Fanatic http://messengermad.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/xxrebelseanxx
Yup :)
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote: > If he needs it badly, the $9.95 won't kill him.
Hey! I mentioned no names!
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NLWard wrote:
The cost I saw was nominal, at least. But a cost anyway. And it would be good if there were a public download site, but can you imagine what a hit the Microsoft servers would take!?
Shhhhhhhhhh, Scott. I didn't want to say his name out loud. Besides, I don't think there'll be an age limit for the public beta; at least there shouldn't be, because it would be absolutely impossible to enforce.
Semantics :p
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
NLWard wrote:
No, not exactly my point that he "shouldn't" be allowed to test, but that he isn't of an age to test and "wouldn't" be allowed to test.
Agreed, especially as the under-16 could be thinking of installing this on the family pc!
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote: > Sounds like good idea too to have Parents consenting to this.
Mother: Honey, whats this Longhorn thing on our PC? Father: Junior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get down here this instant!!!!!!!! :) -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm ""Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]"" wrote in message
Agreed, especially as the under-16 could be thinking of installing this on the family pc!
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote: Sounds like good idea too to have Parents consenting to this.
hahahahahaha...
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Andre Da Costa" wrote in message
Mother: Honey, whats this Longhorn thing on our PC? Father: Junior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get down here this instant!!!!!!!! :) -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm ""Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]"" iwantalivemessengerinvite@googlemail.com> wrote in message Agreed, especially as the under-16 could be thinking of installing this on the family pc!
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote: Sounds like good idea too to have Parents consenting to this.
And I had no idea he was underage...See how much I know.... Robbie "Cindy Winegarden" wrote in message
Hi Robbie,
Now that I read it again I see it that way too.
-- Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP cindy_winegarden@msn.com www.cindywinegarden.com
"Robbie" wrote in message Cindy, I maybe out to lunch here (but I think I am not.), but I don't think what Sean was talking about was an MVP Nomination...read it again Cindy...He was asking about being Nomnated by an MVP to beta test Vista....
:)
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Andre Da Costa wrote:
Mother: Honey, whats this Longhorn thing on our PC? Father: Junior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get down here this instant!!!!!!!! :)
Nice joke.....but giant corporate which are going to adopt Vista should have receive beta 2 copy for testing i guess....
"Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]" wrote:
:)
Scøtt http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/
Andre Da Costa wrote: Mother: Honey, whats this Longhorn thing on our PC? Father: Junior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get down here this instant!!!!!!!! :)
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